yozza
Barton upon Humber
TF Guru
Posts:73
|
|
08 May 2007 8:12 AM |
Alert |
|
Pity theres no one from the NTA on here to post how they can help the drivers as opposed to the GMB.
who obviously doesnt have a clue outside his own backyard. it would be nice if someone had a question to ask GMB that he obviously couldnt answer on the trade to show people how little he does know hence showing him for what he really is........an hot air antagoniser gob sh..e
|
|
|
|
|
Thermidor
TF MVP
Posts:150
|
|
08 May 2007 12:10 PM |
Alert |
|
Pity theres no one from the NTA on here to post how they can help the drivers as opposed to the GMB.
who obviously doesnt have a clue outside his own backyard. it would be nice if someone had a question to ask GMB that he obviously couldnt answer on the trade to show people how little he does know hence showing him for what he really is........an hot air antagoniser gob sh..e
It seems to me the GMBPDB guy would phone a friend if asked a difficult question....whereas people with half decent knowledge would be able to point in the right direction, if not answer it themselves straight away.
I'm sure he'll also say you can have access to solicitors, facing facts, you can all have access to solicitors, but finding one with a knowledge of licensing is more difficult than you might have thought.
I'm sure we could all think of questions on various court cases, the 1847, the 1976 and the 1985 acts, but whats the point?
As I said on a previous post, it seems to me the best form of defence from the GMBPDB point of view, is attack. Sweet FA in terms of knowledge, but attack all the same.
|
|
|
|
|
yozza
Barton upon Humber
TF Guru
Posts:73
|
|
08 May 2007 4:06 PM |
Alert |
|
i agree with your final comment in particular thermidor, its a pity when you have people who's sole purpose is to wind people up to get a response. little realising that it reflects badly upon themselves in the short and long term of things. refering back to terry, im sure that the views he spouts arent those of GMB but merely his own. hence i wonder if the GMB are actually aware of the damage he's doing to them as a union. he must be losing them recruits in droves and not finding any new ones. he's a liability i would assume.
|
|
|
|
|
Thermidor
TF MVP
Posts:150
|
|
08 May 2007 4:18 PM |
Alert |
|
i agree with your final comment in particular thermidor, its a pity when you have people who's sole purpose is to wind people up to get a response. little realising that it reflects badly upon themselves in the short and long term of things. refering back to terry, im sure that the views he spouts arent those of GMB but merely his own. hence i wonder if the GMB are actually aware of the damage he's doing to them as a union. he must be losing them recruits in droves and not finding any new ones. he's a liability i would assume.
I suppose he does get a response, and for the most part I suppose its a GMB problem not mine.
Everyone is aware how unions have lost members over the past few years......you only have to look at how they are kind of trying to embrace the migrant workers through the european tradeshows. There was a story about electricians or plumbers in Portsmouth now working for half their normal wages due to the influx of foreign workers.
I wonder how anyone believes they can unite the HC and PH trades under one banner? They absolutely hate each other in some places. To go around thinking its a matter of negiotiating and finding boundaries with each other is stupid, because the lowest common denominator always comes through.
Back to the GMBPDB....we see a lot of posts telling us of the benefits and calling others, but nothing in terms of substance as to their way forward.
|
|
|
|
|
steadfast
TF MVP
Posts:159
|
|
08 May 2007 4:54 PM |
Alert |
Back to the GMBPDB....we see a lot of posts telling us of the benefits and calling others, but nothing in terms of substance as to their way forward.
as the GMB ever had anything of substance to shout about ? i certainly doubt it |
|
|
|
|
GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON
TF Almighty!
Posts:1170
|
|
08 May 2007 5:42 PM |
Alert |
|
Yozza earlier you critisced someone for hiding behind an alias just like you still are.
The views expressed are those on the industry as agreed by our branches.
Hack and PH hate each other in some areas, hardly news! but until they co-operate they will suffer economically.
My posts on sites bring s in members , the philosophy is simple WORK together, look if your happy with the NTA stay there, many arnt and come to us freedom of choice.
Very astute of you to notice im no lawyer, however what i do have is access to the nations finest for the needs of our MEMBERS.
I fail to see the antagonism in saying work together, whats wrong with that?
Surely we hide no policys they are published in magazines on this site and will soon be on our own site www.gmbprofessionaldriversbranch.co.uk all welcome!!!!!!
|
|
NATIONAL ORGANISER GMB PDB
|
|
|
GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON
TF Almighty!
Posts:1170
|
|
08 May 2007 5:55 PM |
Alert |
|
Had you read the article so kindly posted btyTony Mite, youd see no claim of intimate knowledge of the industry outside London, but drivers from outside London still wanted membership.
Questions if the NTA theNPH and all the others are so clever why are they now copying our tactics on fringe benefits?
Why couldnt they solve the Diabetes problem, we DID!
Ive received much critiscism so what, we are succesfull and will continue to expand our membership!
Another question are you 2 happy with the industry, how would you change it can it be done with the current set up? if so why hasnt already been done?
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN BY THOSE THAT TURN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
NATIONAL ORGANISER GMB PDB
|
|
|
GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON
TF Almighty!
Posts:1170
|
|
08 May 2007 6:01 PM |
Alert |
And finallywhat input will you 2 have, other than to spout on here,while im negotatiing with Govt ministers,Council Leaders,Legislators Associations etc?
Still you could be involved were you members, not complicated is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
|
NATIONAL ORGANISER GMB PDB
|
|
|
Thermidor
TF MVP
Posts:150
|
|
08 May 2007 6:50 PM |
Alert |
I was right.....you write an incredible amount of b*llocks.
The NTA way has always been one of quietly going along looking after the interests of its members.
I did say at the top of this thread that at some point we'd hear about the GMB having access to solicitors. The reality is that the majority of people dont want access to solicitors....they want a person at the end of the phone who is abole to give them advice on how to overcome a problem BEFORE solicitors are needed.
Copying GMBPDB tactics? Not quite, the old NFTA used to offer similar schemes many years before the GMB left boilermakers.
If I want change I'll do it through my current people.
As for you negotiating please dont negotiate on my behalf, because the chances are, you'll f*ck it all up
|
|
|
|
|
GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON
TF Almighty!
Posts:1170
|
|
08 May 2007 6:58 PM |
Alert |
|
We dont represent non members!
Dont recall fuc...g anything up yet!!!
ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
NATIONAL ORGANISER GMB PDB
|
|
|
GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON
TF Almighty!
Posts:1170
|
|
08 May 2007 7:03 PM |
Alert |
|
As to your point about solicitors well of course they are the last resort, 100 yrs of industrial experience might help our officers are well trained and highly efficient!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUR DAY WILL COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
NATIONAL ORGANISER GMB PDB
|
|
|
roadrunner
TF Regular
Posts:43
|
|
08 May 2007 7:10 PM |
Alert |
Posted By GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON on 08 May 2007 6:58 PM
We dont represent non members!
Dont recall fuc...g anything up yet!!!
ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
try parenthood if you was ever lucky enough to meet anyone of opposite sex willing to give in to your needs
|
|
|
|
|
GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON
TF Almighty!
Posts:1170
|
|
08 May 2007 8:38 PM |
Alert |
|
Roadrunner we should meet some day. by the way WHAT thing spawned you. you see that when it comes to insults we are not amaeurs either, now creep back into your natural enviroment
NEVER GIVE A MUG AN EVEN BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
NATIONAL ORGANISER GMB PDB
|
|
|
Baron Silas Greenback
TF MVP
Posts:212
|
|
08 May 2007 8:54 PM |
Alert |
Posted By GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON on 08 May 2007 8:38 PM
Roadrunner we should meet some day. by the way WHAT thing spawned you. you see that when it comes to insults we are not amaeurs either, now creep back into your natural enviroment
NEVER GIVE A MUG AN EVEN BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as for what thing spawned you, as you put in above post GMB.
i believe your the result of a knuckle shuffle and the flies did the rest me old cocka
|
|
|
|
|
felix
TF MVP
Posts:174
|
|
09 May 2007 5:55 PM |
Alert |
|
any chance we can get back to the original point on this topic as i see gmb as taken everyone off topic once again
|
|
|
|
|
GMB BRANCH SEC LONDON
TF Almighty!
Posts:1170
|
|
09 May 2007 9:21 PM |
Alert |
|
NTA governors org anti driver thats why its disintegrating, shame WE want to see a strong Governors org to confront injustice with us when we agree!!! otherwise the present situation persists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN BY THOSE THAT TURN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
NATIONAL ORGANISER GMB PDB
|
|
|
Thermidor
TF MVP
Posts:150
|
|
10 May 2007 10:09 AM |
Alert |
| Is there any truth in the rumour Gateshead are returning to the NTA? |
|
|
|
|
Thermidor
TF MVP
Posts:150
|
|
10 May 2007 7:16 PM |
Alert |
|
can the NTA
Lend the GMBPDB some members?
Give it some policies?
Give it credibility?
|
|
|
|
|
DavidG
TF MVP
Posts:160
|
|
10 May 2007 8:16 PM |
Alert |
Posted By Thermidor on 10 May 2007 7:16 PM
can the NTA
Lend the GMBPDB some members?
Give it some policies?
Give it credibility?
are you talking nationally or regional ?
im sure they could do with more people like mick who dont claim glory
|
|
|
|
|
Thermidor
TF MVP
Posts:150
|
|
10 May 2007 8:35 PM |
Alert |
From what I hear the guy in gateshead, mick?, did a good job, from what I've read he puts all the credit to his members and his association. I could phone admin in the morning and get the SP.
But I dont know whats gone on in Gateshead, it seems like theyve left the NTA and joined the GMBPDB |
|
|
|
|